Hawkkeye666 Posted September 30, 2025 Author Posted September 30, 2025 On 9/29/2025 at 8:37 AM, VNDragonV2 said: The mongooses still seem pretty defensive in the video so they don't seem that at ease with having the lion there. I wonder what the actual set up of that enclosure is like? Actually, mongooses are on the offensive in the video. They´re the ones bothering the lions. Set up is ok sized indoor exhibit for mongooses, leading to small outdoor one, from which pipes lead to different spots in outdoor lion enclosure. When I first heard about this, I thought it would lead to some dead mongooses, like everywhere it had been tried before. But after some initial attempts of lions to hunt mongooses, they (mostly) stopped paying attention to them. I think this mostly working is combination of many factors - two male lions in this enclosure (barbary and white males) are from big litters or prides (white lion had 4 littermates), both raised in captivity with pretty calm and submissive disposition. Even their first encounter ended in barbary one being submissive to white immediately after he growled at him. There are no females or youngs (I think female lions are more prone to hunt small prey, and from what I´ve heard from zookeepers, they are /generally/ nastier than males). And exhibit itself is quite bare, with only just few rocks and elevated platform for lions, which I think also contributed - it was easier for lions to get used to mongooses when they were able to see them all the time. More hiding spaces would lead to lions seeing them less often and reacting curiously every time, instead of just taking them as a common occurence. And of course, sociability of banded mongoose means that they work as a group which probably intimidate lions (a little). I do not know whether there were any losses of mongooses during introduction period, but for now, I haven´t heard of any visitor witnessing the lions killing or hurting a mongoose. But I´d say this is ´ideal´ and rare combination of factors and it wouldn´t work at least this well for 99 per cent of time. I think about making slender mongooses compatible with lions, common slender probably with ingame lion, and Angolan with Katanga lion, but this compatibility wouldn´t work in real life (at least not as well), because they´re not as sociable as banded mongooses.
VNDragonV2 Posted September 30, 2025 Posted September 30, 2025 1 hour ago, Hawkkeye666 said: Actually, mongooses are on the offensive in the video. They´re the ones bothering the lions. Set up is ok sized indoor exhibit for mongooses, leading to small outdoor one, from which pipes lead to different spots in outdoor lion enclosure. When I first heard about this, I thought it would lead to some dead mongooses, like everywhere it had been tried before. But after some initial attempts of lions to hunt mongooses, they (mostly) stopped paying attention to them. I think this mostly working is combination of many factors - two male lions in this enclosure (barbary and white males) are from big litters or prides (white lion had 4 littermates), both raised in captivity with pretty calm and submissive disposition. Even their first encounter ended in barbary one being submissive to white immediately after he growled at him. There are no females or youngs (I think female lions are more prone to hunt small prey, and from what I´ve heard from zookeepers, they are /generally/ nastier than males). And exhibit itself is quite bare, with only just few rocks and elevated platform for lions, which I think also contributed - it was easier for lions to get used to mongooses when they were able to see them all the time. More hiding spaces would lead to lions seeing them less often and reacting curiously every time, instead of just taking them as a common occurence. And of course, sociability of banded mongoose means that they work as a group which probably intimidate lions (a little). I do not know whether there were any losses of mongooses during introduction period, but for now, I haven´t heard of any visitor witnessing the lions killing or hurting a mongoose. But I´d say this is ´ideal´ and rare combination of factors and it wouldn´t work at least this well for 99 per cent of time. I think about making slender mongooses compatible with lions, common slender probably with ingame lion, and Angolan with Katanga lion, but this compatibility wouldn´t work in real life (at least not as well), because they´re not as sociable as banded mongooses. Interesting. It does seem like a lot of factors have to fall into place for this combination to work. Do you plan to have these lions use the ingame lion's sounds?
Hawkkeye666 Posted September 30, 2025 Author Posted September 30, 2025 15 minutes ago, VNDragonV2 said: Interesting. It does seem like a lot of factors have to fall into place for this combination to work. Do you plan to have these lions use the ingame lion's sounds? I´ve already released them (page 144 of this topic) or you can get them as single ztds on my google drive. yep, they use ingame sounds.
VNDragonV2 Posted September 30, 2025 Posted September 30, 2025 57 minutes ago, Hawkkeye666 said: I´ve already released them (page 144 of this topic) or you can get them as single ztds on my google drive. yep, they use ingame sounds. The ones in the combined file do not make any sounds. I will test the ones on Drive later.
Hawkkeye666 Posted September 30, 2025 Author Posted September 30, 2025 2 hours ago, VNDragonV2 said: The ones in the combined file do not make any sounds. I will test the ones on Drive later. You´re right, my lions don´t make any sounds when placed (not even the old ones). There´s missing .wav in uca for most sounds. I´ll correct it tomorrow. Thanks for noticing, I always listen to music when I test new animals, so I didn´t know about that. 1
Hawkkeye666 Posted October 1, 2025 Author Posted October 1, 2025 I have corrected my lions, so now they roar as lions should. I added sounds to my old lions too. Big thanks to VNDragonV2 for reporting that. Here are they: *** files removed 2025.12.25 screenshot of files removed: 2 2
emanueltheodorus Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 Hello @Hawkkeye666, I had noticed your Scalloped Hammerhead Shark file can't be found anywhere on the google drive or in this page. Do you still have it?
Hawkkeye666 Posted October 4, 2025 Author Posted October 4, 2025 On 10/2/2025 at 11:11 AM, emanueltheodorus said: Hello @Hawkkeye666, I had noticed your Scalloped Hammerhead Shark file can't be found anywhere on the google drive or in this page. Do you still have it? I wasn´t quite content with it, so I took it away to rework it. Haven´t gotten around to it yet. Here are some hyenas instead. You may call them sharks of the land. Animals: Eastern Aaardwolf, Southern Aardwolf Pachycrocuta Brevirostris Compatibility: Eastern Aardwolf: my Hirola, Red-Bellied Parrot, etc. Southern Aarwolf: my Cape Porcupine, Common Dwarf Mongoose, Bat-Eared Fox, etc. Here are also new versions of Hirola and Reb-Bellied Parrot, they don´t show angry faces when aardwolves are put in their exhibit. Enjoy! *** files removed 2025.12.25 screenshot of files removed: 1 1
Hawkkeye666 Posted October 13, 2025 Author Posted October 13, 2025 Here is something I teased a long time ago. My sea lions and seals, reworked and combined (with some bonuses). I especially changed the size of many of them. Animals: Steller´s sea lion, northern fur seal, Japanese sea lion, Patagonian sea lion, brown fur seal, South American fur seal, Antarctic fur seal, subantarctic fur seal, Australian sea lion, Juan Fernandez fur seal, New Zealand fur seal, Galapagod fur seal, New Zealand sea lion Largha seal, Caspian seal, grey seal, Baikal seal, ringed seal, Guadalupe fur seal, hooded seal, crab-eater seal Compatibility: find out! Many are compatible with my, ingame or Borsato´s animals. For example with my penguins, this combination works in zoos... When fur seals are female. Don´t search what male fur seals do with penguins. You´ve been warned. Enjoy! *** files removed 2025.12.25 screenshot of files removed: 1 1
pukkie Posted October 13, 2025 Posted October 13, 2025 that is one massive pack Hawkeye Well done on you for the changes you made Great job! 1
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